Monday, February 13, 2012

Do you think it's fair to blame people for what people of their race have done?

For example taking land away from the native americans. It was a terrible thing, but the white people in america today aren't personally responsible for it even if there ancestors may or may not have been.



Another example is how Chinese and Korean people still hold a grudge against the Japanese despite the fact that most Japanese people today were born after world war 2 was over.Do you think it's fair to blame people for what people of their race have done?
It's not that we are blaming you personally for what your ancestors did. The problem is, are YOU still profiting from it? Yes. You are living on the best land, and heating your home with coal, oil, and natural gas stolen from my reservation, while 60% of the homes on my reservation don't have electricity or running water. So much of the water that used to flow on my reservation to irrigate our farms has been diverted, to go to your cities instead. Because Las Vegas (a city in the middle of the desert, needs this-



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot3OlYOQO…



meanwhile, we have to drive into town and use coin operated showers and buy bottled water, because we aren't allowed to drill water wells on our own property!



This is just one example of the ways in which you are living well at our expense. And the fact that we don't even seem to exist on your radar is very sad and disturbing. You don't even know anything about this, or the fact that it is still going on.
Blame ? No.
However, is it right to claim the credit and privileges of ones ancestors and ignore the wrong they did ?
No white person alive today held a slave. That is reason enough not to "blame" slavery on people alive today.
On the other hand no White person alive today signed the Declaration of Independence either.
Yet, nobody is disavowing the connection to that.

It gets tricky when you consider the effect of "privilege" multiplied over time.
Much harder to quantify.
If wealth and status and power accumulate over generations then what is the effect of keeping some people out of the system that allows such accumulation ?

100 years ago ?
No.
As recently as WWII. Returning GIs built the middle class with homeownership and union jobs.
Those homes and jobs were in racially segregated communities and union halls.
Levittown,NY Americas 1st suburb had an open NO Negr@s policy.
It was common and accepted as "normal" or "the way it's always been".
1964 the right to vote was still an issue for some Americans.
1974 desegregated schools in the NORTH, Boston,New York,Chicago was still an issue.
Look at the rate of Draft deferrmets and excuses from service in the Viet Nam War.
Who got them who didn't.

Today it seems like the beneficiaries of a lot of preference spend a lot of time saying "It wasn't me."
and not very much time considering how we arrived at the state of affairs today.Do you think it's fair to blame people for what people of their race have done?
Hi matt,
I think blaming people for what people of their race have done is trully irrelevant. Just to give a simple example, if you were given a sack of apples and what you see is a rotten apple among all the apples. You can't really say all the apples in the same sac are rotten. So what I'm trying to say is when someone does something wrong, we can't simply blame his/her family/ race. What we should do is to learn from the mistakes done and try to forgive them.
Nowadays, it seems like to forgive and forget is the best policy.
It is not that simply when the race has skyscrapers and the victims ancestors are living on a strip of land. When one set of people had been killed for Gold and the killers ancestors have it.Do you think it's fair to blame people for what people of their race have done?
No. Racism is bad. History is history for a reason.
I really don't think so.
No, and it makes no sense.
yeah !!, race shouldnt be apart of it !!!
no
There is actually no such thing as race, it's really about culture and moral relativistic dominions over creation.

All nations and cultures are founded on the pursuit of wealth and ideologically driven treacherous conquest; also it can be said in an act of self-preservation in the pursuit of surreptitiously acquiring false pervasive power over others.

Original tribes/peoples of what is now the united states were subdued, subjugated and rendered servitude by the sword the gun and monotheism.
They were then enslaved to work for prime markets rendered dependable to capitalism, (Or they were killed by acts of genocide and civil war)

The likes of Christopher Columbus (1451-1506) and Sir Walter Raleigh (1554-1618) (Raleigh was a soldier, courtier, spy, and explorer to Elizabeth I, and the Spanish and Portuguese in South America who murdered and stole all the gold, spread of monotheistic Christianity and capitalism which is why people are now deluded and identifying with materialism/objects of wealth (Man becomes a false God), robbery and murder in 1494 which went on for 400 years.

On October 12, 1492 (the first day he encountered the native people of the Americas), Columbus wrote in his journal: "They should be good servants .... I, our Lord being pleased, will take hence, at the time of my departure, six natives for your Highnesses." These captives were later paraded through the streets of Barcelona and Seville when Columbus returned to Spain.

From his very first contact with native people, Columbus had their domination in mind.
For example, on October 14, 1492, Columbus wrote in his journal, "with fifty men they can all be subjugated and made to do what is required of them." These were not mere words: after his second voyage, Columbus sent back a consignment of natives to be sold as slaves.
http://www.understandingprejudice.org/na…
No.

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